Transcript 0:00 [on hold music] Talk to me. Information, news and entertainment on demand. Montgomerywestradio.com. 0:10 [on hold music] Welcome to the Peggy Smedley Show, the voice of IoT in our connected world with your host, Peggy Smedley. [on hold music] Hello, listeners, and welcome back to the Peggy Smedley Show. 0:25 My final-- As in my final segment, [laughs] I'd like to welcome back a regular on the show. 0:31 As you know, he has twenty-five years of experience, and he's kind of propelled his, uh, expertise as an I-- in the IT arena and in the venture capitalist space. 0:41 So please join me in welcoming back my technology and business consultant expert, Craig Brown. Craig, welcome to the show. Hey there. Hey, how's it going? How you doing? Thanks for having me back. I am doing great. 0:56 I'm glad to hear you. I almost couldn't hear you there. I thought maybe you were, like, not there for a second. [laughs] It made me a little nervous. I was in the cloud. 1:01 [laughs] Hey, so, uh, we've got to con-continue our conversations all month long. We've been talking about the IoT and the fog, and I know you've got some great thoughts on that. So let's talk about that, you know. 1:15 What, what do you think is going on? You know, everybody talks about are we gonna be at the edge? Are we gonna be, you know, in the cloud? 1:21 You just heard Glenn Lurie, who's now the CEO of, uh, Synchronoss, talk about that he thinks we're gonna be more coming back to the cloud, not less-- ne-necessarily going to the edge. 1:32 You know, what's your take on what's gonna happen here? 1:35 I think we're gonna be dependent on the cloud even more a-and the edge and, and, and fog computing element sits between the data, which we'll just call cloud now, and the devices. 1:48 And before you can introduce billions of devices, um, on a network that, you know, we also use to transmit, you know, typical data between applications, um, and servers within organizations and, and from organization to organization, we gotta find ways to kind of divide and, and conquer how all this is gonna get managed. 2:07 And the edge, uh, fog computing technology is part of the solution for managing, you know, both devices and connected users and, and keep all the data and, and transfer and, and pathways separate, but also allowing the, the-- harnessing the power of, of computing, um, to, to make sure that all of the devices and all of the people in, in, in, in the interim, um, can speak seamlessly and, and, and in real time. 2:35 So when we think about that, you know, it's kind of what I was saying earlier, it, it really depends where we are at, at, at time and place, you know. 2:41 I mean, we're talking about we've got all this autonomous stuff, we've got these smart cities, we've got these smart grids, but it really all depends. Is it really all connected? Is it not? 2:51 And, and how fast are we gonna get where we're going? Right. Right. Because I think there's certain goals for edge computing versus what you want to be in the cloud, right? So I mean- Right. Right. 3:00 What are your take then? I guess is for you, what do you think would be the goals then for why you need to be at the edge versus the cloud? 3:06 Because right now, I, in my opinion, and maybe I'm wrong, it's just the way I see it and the research I've done, is I'm not necessarily sure you're gonna be all in on one or all in on the other, depending on what kind of industry is gonna really determine what you're gonna do. 3:22 And I don't know- Right. What, what's your take? What do you think? Well, you-- I think you said it earlier, speed is gonna be critical to, to this entire network of things, right? You know, being able to receive data. 3:37 Think about it. If you're in a car, and the car is-- 3:40 if you're in a connected car, and the car needs to know where all of the other vehicles on the road are and where the stoplights and such, there can't be any lag or latency in network, um, in other words, buffering. 3:52 And we experience that when we watch YouTube videos on our phone, right? 3:55 That has to all be, be eliminated, and, and we have to trust that the data's gonna get to the necessary, uh, uh, receiver so that it can be acted upon or, and, and reacted upon. 4:07 So because of that, a lot of the, the, the, the, the components that edge computing brings to the table are gonna be essential to the success of the various things that we're talking about that we see are coming futuristically, like the connected vehicle, for example. 4:23 Are we kind of saying maybe I don't want to throw the, you know, Uber under the bus, so to speak, but is that kind of what Uber just experienced? I mean, you know, is there some issues there? 4:35 I mean, 'cause, you know, there's got to be some latency. Something happened. I mean, I don't know what yet, but, you know. Right? 4:43 Well, well, I'll say I don't know all the details around the Uber debacle, but let's just say it sounds like there was some issues, um, where the data, it wasn't where it needed to be and between the driver and the, and the user, there was some disconnection. 4:58 I, I don't know all the details around it, but yeah, I believe that today we are experiencing those types of network latencies. 5:04 But moving forward and what edge computing, um, promises to bring us is, um, some elimination in that and, and a lot of power is gonna be dedicated to just making sure that data packets can move across the network seamlessly. 5:16 And 5G is a part of this too. Some of the, you know, the components of what 5G networking brings to the table will also solve some of these problems. 5:23 It's not on-- it's not all on the edge computing side, but it is a big component in making sure that it's successful. 5:31 So we're really talking about very particular cases for edge computing that we want to look at and then versus where we're talking about autonomous vehicles versus what we're talking about edge computing versus consumers may benefit from. 5:47 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we're, we're-- I think we're talking apples and oranges. They all might be fruit, but we're very specific cases here. Right. 5:55 In the consumer side of this, you know, we don't want to lose sight of the fact that we, you know, consumers also need, uh-The power of, of, of edge computing because we're, we're, we're a part of... 6:08 You know, our connected devices are a part of it. 6:10 Like, we-- W-we're also connected to the network, and we don't wanna, you know, get lost in the sauce per, per se, you know, in lieu of the c- you know, the, the, the autonomous industry that's, that's up, up and coming. 6:21 So c- you know, consumers are a part of the IoT, um, world, right? Um, um, we have tablets, we have, we have phones and... 6:29 You know, I'm driving my car and I'm using my, my maps to get to my destination in, I don't wanna s- feel any or, or sense any lag time and, and, and I was supposed to take this right turn and I missed it because the, the, the f- my device wasn't updated, right? 6:42 So it's, uh, it is... The, the consumers should not be left out of the conversation while we're looking at all of the things that are necessary for a successful IoT implementation. 6:52 So are we gonna go back to our original conversation we had in January where we're talking about blockchain now and all of this IoT and latency? 7:01 'Cause everyone's gonna say we're gonna be doing all these blockchain transactions, and we're gonna be doing those in the Internet of Things, you know, in our enterprises. 7:11 Is this all gonna be coming a part of this as well, whether we do some of this? 'Cause everybody wants to have a blockchain for every kind of vertical market now. 7:19 I mean, do we have to take some of this into consideration, start thinking about that as well? I, I, I agree a hundred percent. 7:27 Um, without these considerations, um, we're gonna get part of it right and we're not gonna get the other part right. We-- This, this is a whole world. 7:33 We're, we're, we're introducing an entire new, uh, uh, you know, element of, of, of computing that has a lot to do with just machines and devices talking to each other, and that's why the machine learning and artificial intelligence conversation is growing now, because we're gonna start leaning a-and depending more on that to be successful, um, and to be incorporated into the various other things that we currently do and what we'll eventually be doing futuristically. 8:00 So, so looking at this, we now have like if we think about machine learning and AI, are all of these things gonna have to learn much faster than what we are envisioning? Mm. 8:10 Because we as the consumer are gonna be extremely impatient, which we already are. We already are, yep. So when we talk about these, we've got about a minute left to go. 8:19 When we talk about it, there's no way we can get into this whole idea of the cloud or whatever or, or looking at all of this if it's not catching on faster. 'Cause the consumer will not... 8:29 The latency is, is, is gonna be a problem, so we can't move to this be-- i-in time because the consumer's not gonna tolerate it. That is correct. 8:38 We gotta get machine learning and artificial intelligence incorporated into our, you know, day-to-day, you know, lifestyle, so per se. 8:46 We've just gotta work with the existing technology flawlessly so that we can get our lessons learned and move into the more com- more complicated technology that's on the forefront, that's in, that's on the horizon. 8:57 Well, Craig, I love when you're on. You're always on every month. Quickly, your URL so our listeners can go out and get more of the stuff you're putting out. CraigBrownPhD.com. Hey, Craig, thank you. 9:08 Enjoy having you, and we'll have you on next month. Thanks a lot. Great. Thank you. Thank you. All right, listeners, we're out of time, but you know you can hear us every Tuesday. We're broadcast at twelve PM Central. 9:19 As I mentioned earlier, check out our website at ConnectedWorld.com. You can see some great things we're putting up there. We've got some new videos. We've got some new articles. 9:27 Everything you wanna learn about what's happening, fog, edge, cloud, all that good stuff. 9:31 And if you wanna see any of the past segments on The Peggy Smedley Show, go up to ThePeggySmedleyShow.com or tweet at us at ConnectedWMag. Thanks again for listening. 9:39 This is The Peggy Smedley Show, the podcasting voice of IoT and relevant technology. 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