Transcript 0:00 [on-hold music] Talk to me. Information, news and entertainment on demand. WSRadio.com. 0:11 [on-hold music] Welcome to The Peggy Smedley Show, the voice of IoT in our connected world, with your host, Peggy Smedley. [on-hold music] Hello, listeners, and welcome back to The Peggy Smedley Show. 0:27 My next guest has more than two decades of experience working in IT, providing consulting to K-through-twelve education programs, state and local governments, as well as gaming and hospitality markets. 0:40 Please welcome Adam Piotrowski, government and education practice leager-- leader for Logicalis US. Adam, welcome to the show. Hey, Peggy. Thanks for having me. It's great to be on the show. 0:54 Hey, we're glad you could join us. So you know, we've been talking about all these changes in infrastructure, the Internet of things and all this good stuff we're talking about. 1:02 But, you know, there's such this transformation. We talk about digitization, government, education. What... 1:10 I, I guess what I'm really trying to figure out, when we talk now about the public sector, and we're talking about our smart cities and all these things, are we hyping it up too much, or do you really see this transformation occurring now? 1:23 Or is it really, eh, we've got a ways to go yet? Well, it's a great question. You know, we are in the middle of a giant transformation everywhere. 1:32 So it's not just public sector, but obviously it's, it's all around us, and we can feel it as, as citizens in the community. 1:39 And certainly these public sector organizations like education and local and state government, they feel it too. 1:46 And really what's causing this is all of these manual processes or these manual projects that are going on have to be pushed into the direction of a digital world. 1:58 And that means converting all of those, uh, those crazy processes from paper or from the traditional way that we might have been doing something for fifty years into a digital way. 2:08 And that, that takes a lot of effort and time, and it really is changing how everything happens in the world today. And it's the reason I say that is because we seem to be having this problem. 2:18 We can't seem to get our Congress to think digitally 'cause they keep fighting like they've been fighting forever. So I think it's kind of an interesting way to think about this because how are cities then? 2:28 Because we're talking about making new infrastructure. We're talking about changing our cities to accommodate autonomous vehicles, this next connected city. 2:38 If we're still trying to look at manual projects, how do you get, and you can't get governments to agree on things, it seems like there's a disjointed disconnection on how we're gonna make a digital world if we can't get all these processes connected that you just described. 2:56 Yeah. And I think the answer really is, is that the technology pulls us forward. 3:01 So whether we like it or not, whether Congress or, or state government or local government will pass a law, the technology continues to pull us. For example, w-we're working on driverless cars right now. 3:13 There are several organizations working on creating one and putting one on the street, regardless of whether or not there's gonna be public funding for it. 3:21 And as you look at our connected freeways and our, all of the connected devices that's in our transportation system, those video cameras and sensors and devices are appearing on our roadways, [laughs] whether or not we're prepared for them or not. 3:35 So really what I struggle with every day is talking to leadership in state government, departments of transportation about what are we gonna do about how you process that data, and what are you gonna do with that data to be able to make intelligent decisions? 3:49 Like, do I need to add an extra lane to this freeway, or should we have a toll road or a toll booth there? Today, those kinds of decisions are, are practically made, uh, by using sensor information. 4:01 They, you know, they count the number of bumps that cars roll over on those, on those little, uh, rubber tubes. Uh, not the case in the future. 4:08 We're gonna see IoT really pushing government to make these important decisions, and it's gonna happen one way or another. So if we're putting in... You know, you, you, you make a really interesting point then. 4:21 If we're putting in all of these sensors, we're collecting all this data, we've got all these devices, we're not really there yet, so we're kind of at this IoT data fatigue then that's coming, and we're not really, really capable of handling it because there's too much information, but no one's really ready to process it then. 4:43 Yeah. I'll give you a perfect-- You're absolutely right. 4:46 I'll give you a perfect example is, and, and I won't name the, uh, the city or state this is from, but, uh, I was just like, a month ago, I was, uh, in a small control room that was processing closed circuit TV video feeds that are above the freeways from about three hundred, uh, square miles, and, uh, all different kinds of video feeds in there. 5:07 And the problem they were having is they didn't know how to integrate all of these video solutions together to be able to actually get the data together. 5:16 So one of the things that our company helps with is we look at these disparate sources of data, in this case video, which is, you know, that, that's a whole 'nother topic of conversation, but it is becoming the new sensor, um, and putting it together to try to be able to make sense with it, and then helping organizations to, to, uh, realize what do we do with the data? 5:36 How do we secure the data? Um, how do we use that data for future analysis? So you're absolutely right. 5:42 It's all colliding, and government is having to deal with, uh, this mega stream of data and devices coming, coming into their network. 5:50 I mean, you make a really good point as well with that because we're looking at, we've got this whole new generation that's not necessarily wanting to read it. They wanna stream it. 5:58 They wanna be able to access it and look at it when they need it.And be able to actually co-- and collect this information. So we're looking at information. This is a new trend of how information is being gathered. 6:12 So we're not even talking about just the sensors that we're looking at with this information and, and streaming lots and lots of information so rapidly now, it's, it's, it's a, a, a pace that we never even thought about when we were looking at sensors before. 6:27 Now we're streaming video into IoT devices even faster than when we were talking about IoT a few years ago. That's a whole nother kind of way of thinking about this when we're looking at IoT and information, right? 6:40 I mean, it's a whole nother concept we have to, to consider. Yeah. 6:45 I think that, uh, I think that the world is, is on the cusp of a new awakening, and that is the, the movement of video in p- in pervasive IoT devices, period. 6:56 I mean, there are, there are many circumstances not just in connected transportation, but in education, um, absolutely different kinds of local government and county and city government where vi- one video camera will now take the place of a hundred sensors because that video camera can look at things and then make sensor determination from the stream. 7:16 For example, if I have a video camera and I aim it at a particular piece of freeway, I can program, um, an, an, a piece of data ana-analytics through it to say, "If you see something happening on this part of lens, trigger an event." 7:31 And if I can do that a hundred times per single video camera, imagine what the data stream looks like as I deal with a freeway system that has, say, three or four hundred thousand cameras along the freeway. 7:43 It's just a phenomenal thing to wrap your head around, and, uh, it's coming fast. So will we be looking at a whole new change? 7:53 You know, not only it's we've been trying to get this idea of adopting the Internet of Things, now we're looking at adopting the Internet of Things, we've been trying to get people to implement, but now we have to look at it from a whole new lens, so to speak, with IoT in a whole new way- Yeah... 8:08 that people have to now adopt it in cities, in schools, in dorm rooms. I mean, wherever you're talking about, the way people are thinking about it completely differently now. 8:19 We, we've been doing it and, and what you were saying, you know, catching speeders on roads and, you know, going through red lights. Right. Now it's changing even more so than way that we, we're thinking about it. 8:30 Yeah, and the-- I totally agree. 8:32 The, you know, the, the concept of I might be able to take a video camera on campus and use it for twenty different purposes other than just having the video recorded, that allows me to have much be-better control of the Internet of Things in general. 8:46 So the scary part is, is all of that video, which will be the future of IoT, now demands an enormous network infrastructure underneath it. 8:57 Because when you start thinking of thirty frame per second video and the hundreds of thousands of cameras that I may have in a city or on a campus, and look at all of the, the bandwidth that's required to transmit that, now we're talking about organizations, either public or private, having to increase their network inf-infrastructure, having to deal with an increased security load, um, especially, uh, our freeway systems. 9:21 When you look at the network infrastructure underneath our freeways, and I've been to those boxes right underneath [chuckles] the freeway exchange that have a, a ruggedized router or a ruggedized switch on there, um, those things will need to be upgraded as we start to see this proliferation of either IoT devices or just video, uh, coming onto the network. 9:42 So as we reconstruct and reconfigure our new cities, we have to take all of this into account with everything we're doing, and that's gonna be the whole new world to which we're living, and we haven't even begun to imagine that, is what you're saying. 9:57 So there's this whole new way of how we have to evaluate. So what's the future in your, in, in your mind's eye [laughs] gonna look like? Yeah. 10:07 Well, you know, everybody talks about everything's gonna move to the cloud, right? If you, if you, uh, listen to, uh, the prophets, right, the, uh, the technology prophets, they all talk about it will move to the cloud. 10:19 I see a little different twist on that, is as I agree, it will move to the cloud. Things will move to the cloud, but people still na- need to have to get that bandwidth in. 10:28 And as we become hungrier and hungrier for that bandwidth, we will still need the network infrastructure and the security to be able to make sure that we're getting, we're getting enough of it to be able to use it properly. 10:41 And so maybe that looks like, uh, no, no data center, but it looks like a very large network infrastructure just to bring that bandwidth to the users of the community. So it-- I, I'm very excited about it. 10:53 It, it will be something that I think we can't quite imagine yet, but, uh, super exciting and, uh, a little bit science fiction-y. [laughs] So we might have some data farms coming back. 11:03 They left, now we might be bringing some of them back for some of the information. [laughs] Yeah, we need to. All right. Well, Adam, it's been great having you on the show this segment. 11:12 Where can our listeners go to learn more information about you guys? Yeah. So the best place is to go to our website. 11:18 That is the us.logicalis.com, and pretty much the whole, uh, the whole gamut's right there for you to take a look at. And I appreciate, uh, you being on, being on the show. Hey, thank you so much. We appreciate you. 11:31 Thanks a lot. All right, listeners, we're out of time, but stick around. We've got one more segment right here on The Peggi Smedley Show, The Voice of IoT. 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